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By Anonymous - Posted on 30 January 2010

1. Character: Volente

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Volente

2. Do you consider your self a team player? If so please give an in-game related example of what you did to make yourself raid productive.

Yes; I like to help anyone in whatever way I can. One example is the icc 10 man group I run with weekly. It's composed of a few friends of mine, and talent that we've found through pugging other things. I went and respeced back into typhoon for this group to make it easier on the ranged so they wouldn't have to move for the blood beasts. I handle rooting and typhooning them each time they come out.

3. Do you use everything at your disposable to make yourself the best at your class? Please give an in-game related example of what you did to be the best at your class. (Topping a meter doesn’t mean you’re the best as your class. Please consider this statement, as it is in the sense of what’s best for the raid at the time.)

You could probably call boomkins my obsession to be honest. I spend countless hours on forums and sites trying to improve my spec, dps, etc. Probably the most memorable and recent would be a little while before Can Heal Stupid fell apart. Tragik came to me and dpsed on the dummies with me for awhile, giving me advice, explaining that I needed to pull more in raids. After that I spent a lot of time theory crafting and searching... needless to say I went from hardly knowing anything about not only my class, but raiding as well, to using every resource possible from in-game items, to forums and sites that I visit everyday.

4. If you were to screw up in the raid more than once per night, or if your DPS/HPS was slacking consecutively. What would you do to correct this problem? Please give an example of when you did this.

I'd smack myself in the head and say knock it off. Unfortunately, that doesn't always work. If it were an issue with something like me dying to stupid things - not moving out of fire... running towards things that kill me... pulling aggro etc... I'd need to delete my main, reroll, and learn the basics of WoW again. Other than that however, with boomkins, there's a lot of RNG.

I can remember one time recently in a Voltage run on anub, my aoe damage was ridiculously low compared to the rest, so on break I went and respeced as well as read up a little more on a few posts for the new spec. I realized I hadn't been keeping my dots up during the aoe parts as well as a clearcasting trick with gotw. Since then I've never gone oom on that fight nor have I been countless numbers behind. :D

5. If you have access to a WWS report, please post a link here.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-tt9b23lqndm44rr3/sum/damageDone/ - ICC 25
(Stepped out on Princes for someone else to come in)

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-36zd27ozbzi45usr/sum/damageDone/ - ToC 25

6. What are your past and current guilds? Secondly, explain why you left each guild. (Even if you’re a server transfer.)

Blame it on Lag (Eredar-US): Only raids I ever got into were Sarth... and that was difficult for them...

Can Heal Stupid: Fell apart. Sadly. And I miss that guild everyday. =/

Voltage: Currently an applicant for them, however, I'm not finding the game as enjoyable when raid time comes around. I like looking forward to raid.

7. Sauce as a guild is on the leading edge of new in-game content. What in-game content have you experienced. (Both new and old)

I haven't been playing WoW long, in fact I didn't start until WotLK was out. I've cleared sarth 10/25 (+3 on both), naxx 10/25, uld 10/25 up to yogg, cleared toc 10/25, cleared totgc 10 with 49 attempts, totgc 25 up to anub, ICC 10 up to the prof, and all but the Prof. and Queen in ICC 25.

8. Even some of the best players have attitudes. Try to explain your personality in 3 or 4 words. (This question is relative, try your best to explain yourself.)

Motivated, irritable, determined, and playful.

9. Do you have a stable computer and internet connection that will not hinder the raid progress as a whole? For the insurance of the guild, we ask you to put the simple specs of you computer. (RAM, processor, video card.)

Yes, and I honestly have no clue about computers... my dad's a tech support so when I got my computer I told him what I wanted it to do and he told me if it could. >.< However, I can get the info if absolutely necessary!

10. What is your personal opinion on bagged milk? (Try to take this question seriously; it greatly affects your chances of getting in to Sauce.)

Sadly... Can't honestly say I remember ever having it... (Seriously, and honestly =/)

11. If you were to get a new piece of main-spec gear, how quickly would you have it enchanted/gemmed?

Immediately after raid.

12. Even though Sauce is very competitive we raid only three hardcore nights a week. These days and times are: Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday; from 7-11 pm. Sauce has two separate ranks of raiders:

Raider – People that are positive they can make three nights a week of raids.
Reserve – People that can only make 1-2 days, or are maybe late a couple of nights.
Please state which of these positions you are applying for.

Raider.

I like the app. Spec'd optimally for single target and gems/enchants exactly as I would have done them as a boomkin. The damage is high for a boomkin; though I do believe there is potential for a little more dps given the gear. I briefly looked at Saurfang and noticed 20% damage to beasts with almost 7k dps, which I believe to be good numbers for a boomkin on that encounter.

~Vintagebob

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tragik's picture

Her name back then was Lileden.

She worked/works very hard at theorycraft and her rotation.

When CHS fell apart, she went to Voltage and she seems to have gotten even better.

She never missed a raid with us.

As an aside: Voltage's DPS makes me want to punch my dog.

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Reyniel's picture

Why would that dps make you want to punch your dog?

But that doesn't make me cooool.

tragik wrote:

As an aside: Voltage's DPS makes me want to punch my dog.

D: Don't do that. You're dog is cute!

tragik's picture

Reyniel wrote:
Why would that dps make you want to punch your dog?

Because my horse is amazing and I'm out of chapstick.

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Reyniel's picture

No seriously why? Do you consider it that impressive?

But that doesn't make me cooool.

Reyniel wrote:
No seriously why? Do you consider it that impressive?

I think he was getting at the fact that is wasn't that impressive >.>

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Volente wrote:
Reyniel wrote:
No seriously why? Do you consider it that impressive?

I think he was getting at the fact that is wasn't that impressive >.>

yep.

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Reyniel's picture

Exactly my point. Why would you want to punch a dog in the face? Why not hug it and be happy that you're not in that guild? Why not rejoice and be merry? Why not baggodix something?

But that doesn't make me cooool.

tragik's picture

I am happy, man, look!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIX3f02xK0o

See how big I smile?

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Muzzum's picture

This thread makes me want to punch a human in the face.

In your defense, I can see where you're coming from.

Reyniel's picture

Your face is the closest face to punch. Go to town.

But that doesn't make me cooool.

I'm very anxious to see this application go through. At least looking at the gear and spec, I'm thinking gewd.

Reyniel's picture

12. Even though Sauce is very competitive we raid only three hardcore nights a week. These days and times are: Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday; from 7-11 pm. Sauce has two separate ranks of raiders:

Raider – People that are positive they can make three nights a week of raids.
Reserve – People that can only make 1-2 days, or are maybe late a couple of nights.
Please state which of these positions you are applying for.

Raider.

But that doesn't make me cooool.

Konty's picture

I like this app, and I'll tell you why. This is the first boomkin that I've seen that has shit where I'd put it. (aside from a few talent points) other than that, the gems are perfect, gear choice is perfect (you're over hit cap), and you've never had bagged milk.

That being said, and you are the first person that has gotten my acceptance as a fellow boomkin, I think you would make a valuable addition.

To the talent points. The point in typhoon -> Owlkin Frenzy. That's it. Blizzard recently stealth fixed the imp moonfire talent, so I'll let you keep it, because it's understandable.

Dowzer out.

My humor is creative and offensive like handicap porn.

Konty wrote:

To the talent points. The point in typhoon -> Owlkin Frenzy. That's it. Blizzard recently stealth fixed the imp moonfire talent, so I'll let you keep it, because it's understandable.

Dowzer out.

:o! Why Owlkin Frenzy? I've always found it to be more useful in pvp.

(And yes, I'm way over hit @.@ but it's proving to be difficult to shed =[)

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Lileden wrote:
:o! Why Owlkin Frenzy? I've always found it to be more useful in pvp.

(And yes, I'm way over hit @.@ but it's proving to be difficult to shed =[)

Ahh yes, the Owlkin shock. I like Owlkin Frenzy because it increases ALL damage by 10%. That's huge. So with 2 points in it you'll have it up 10% of the time. Because if you think about, what fight DON'T you take some kind of damage on? And yes it procs on any kind of damage aoe, melee, friendly fire, ect...

Now, your hit, what about take a point from balance of power? you're about 2% over the cap to its not doing much for you. (6% less magic damage, woot? idk) and throw that point in to owlkin as well.

3 points in OF, dayummm.

Dowzer out.

My humor is creative and offensive like handicap porn.

Konty wrote:

Ahh yes, the Owlkin shock. I like Owlkin Frenzy because it increases ALL damage by 10%. That's huge. So with 2 points in it you'll have it up 10% of the time. Because if you think about, what fight DON'T you take some kind of damage on? And yes it procs on any kind of damage aoe, melee, friendly fire, ect...

It... procs off friendly fire? O.o

I can see taking a point out of BoP, one out of moonglow, and one out off typhoon to get the 3 points, however, my thing with owlkin is, and has always been, how often it procs. I'll do a bit more reading up on it.

Definitely something I'm going to consider thank you. =]

Konty's picture

FF = When someone gets MCed and hits you or a debuff explodes and hits your or something.

That's what I meant by it.

My humor is creative and offensive like handicap porn.

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I love you Atal

My humor is creative and offensive like handicap porn.

tragik's picture

Konty wrote:
Lileden wrote:
:o! Why Owlkin Frenzy? I've always found it to be more useful in pvp.

(And yes, I'm way over hit @.@ but it's proving to be difficult to shed =[)

Ahh yes, the Owlkin shock. I like Owlkin Frenzy because it increases ALL damage by 10%. That's huge. So with 2 points in it you'll have it up 10% of the time. Because if you think about, what fight DON'T you take some kind of damage on? And yes it procs on any kind of damage aoe, melee, friendly fire, ect...

Now, your hit, what about take a point from balance of power? you're about 2% over the cap to its not doing much for you. (6% less magic damage, woot? idk) and throw that point in to owlkin as well.

3 points in OF, dayummm.

Dowzer out.

Yeah except it's a 15% proc rate with an ICD. It's good for farming boars while they whale on you and you channel Hurricane. That's about it.

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The only encounters I found Owlkin Frenzy really nice were fights such as Twins, in which you are constantly taking damage. I still think Konty makes a good point; however, that if you don't need the hit rating it may be beneficial to throw a point from balance of power and give up a little survivability. As a moonkin surviving should not be an issue with a high amount of raid awareness and the use of barkskin.

You could use points from Typhoon if you wanted to sacrifice the knock back effect for additional points in owlkin frenzy. I chose to put a point in Typhoon specifically for knocking adds back on Saurfang, though this is the only real good use I have found for it. You do take damage in most fights in ICC (as Konty said) and owlkin frenzy will proc and give you some DPS increase. In fact, I will pull some points tonight and see how it works out on the logs.

~Bobbycat

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tragik wrote:
Konty wrote:
Lileden wrote:
:o! Why Owlkin Frenzy? I've always found it to be more useful in pvp.

(And yes, I'm way over hit @.@ but it's proving to be difficult to shed =[)

Ahh yes, the Owlkin shock. I like Owlkin Frenzy because it increases ALL damage by 10%. That's huge. So with 2 points in it you'll have it up 10% of the time. Because if you think about, what fight DON'T you take some kind of damage on? And yes it procs on any kind of damage aoe, melee, friendly fire, ect...

Now, your hit, what about take a point from balance of power? you're about 2% over the cap to its not doing much for you. (6% less magic damage, woot? idk) and throw that point in to owlkin as well.

3 points in OF, dayummm.

Dowzer out.

Yeah except it's a 15% proc rate with an ICD. It's good for farming boars while they whale on you and you channel Hurricane. That's about it.

Ok, tell me this, what do you lose to get an extra 15% damage every now and then? Mana regen? Unneeded hit? Or maybe it's the spell she never uses?

Take your pick.

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Konty wrote:

Ok, tell me this, what do you lose to get an extra 15% damage every now and then? Mana regen? Unneeded hit? Or maybe it's the spell she never uses?

Take your pick.

Aye. He has a point with the moonglow and BoP talents. I never go oom, nor do I need the hit. The spell I never use... eh, I use it in and out of raid so that is debatable.

I am interested to hear what Bobbycat's findings are tonight.

The point in moonglow is more out of necessity, you cannot swap it out for a point in owlkin frenzy due to the limited points in the lower tier talents. Basically, either a point in moonglow to reduce mana or a point in genesis for and extra 1% DoT are your choices to get 10 points and move to the third talent tier. I'll look over the logs from tonight and post the up-time of owlkin frenzy, though I think the encounters do not lend themselves to the talent as much as a lot of other encounters in ICC (I expect a lower than average up-time).

~Bobbycat

vintagebob wrote:
The point in moonglow is more out of necessity, you cannot swap it out for a point in owlkin frenzy due to the limited points in the lower tier talents. Basically, either a point in moonglow to reduce mana or a point in genesis for and extra 1% DoT are your choices to get 10 points and move to the third talent tier. I'll look over the logs from tonight and post the up-time of owlkin frenzy, though I think the encounters do not lend themselves to the talent as much as a lot of other encounters in ICC (I expect a lower than average up-time).

~Bobbycat

Thanks for checking that out Bobbycat!

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Owlkin Frenzy (last I checked) only procs off physical damage.

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tragik wrote:
Owlkin Frenzy (last I checked) only procs off physical damage.

Source where you checked please Trag :) kthx

Eden

tragik's picture

It was changed in 3.2 to proc off all damage.

My mistake. I'd say it's worth a shot over hit you don't need.

Konty was right. Nice rack Konty.

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Reyniel's picture

You don't even know...

WHILE YOU BE HITTIN' KONTY BE CRITIN'

But that doesn't make me cooool.

Konty's picture

I love you Rey.

And yes Owlkin procs off anything.

Bob, I never said take all the points out of Moonglow, only one. I understand that you need a point somewhere down there to progress in the tree. My mistake, I guess I wasn't clear.

BnD lives.

My humor is creative and offensive like handicap porn.

My mistake, I assumed she had one point in moonglow not two. On a side note, I did remove the point from moonglow and put it in genesis for an extra 1% DoT without noticing any mana issues. Furthermore, that Owlkin Frenzy is still just plain amazing on fights with constant damage (like Twins, or the Blood Queen[whom I tested it with last-night]).

Owlkin Frenzy has no internal cooldown. I had 2 points in the talent, so a 10% proc chance, and found at times I would have Owlkin Frenzy chain proc. Bottom line is Konty was right, in general I preferred having Owlkin Frenzy to AoE talents, and I certainly saw a dps increase. Now that Blizz fixed the Saurfang "strat" of knocking beasts off the edge typhoon has very little usage (If you knock them off they just respawn back on top).

~Bobbycat

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vintagebob wrote:
My mistake, I assumed she had one point in moonglow not two. On a side note, I did remove the point from moonglow and put it in genesis for an extra 1% DoT without noticing any mana issues. Furthermore, that Owlkin Frenzy is still just plain amazing on fights with constant damage (like Twins, or the Blood Queen[whom I tested it with last-night]).

Owlkin Frenzy has no internal cooldown. I had 2 points in the talent, so a 10% proc chance, and found at times I would have Owlkin Frenzy chain proc. Bottom line is Konty was right, in general I preferred having Owlkin Frenzy to AoE talents, and I certainly saw a dps increase. Now that Blizz fixed the Saurfang "strat" of knocking beasts off the edge typhoon has very little usage (If you knock them off they just respawn back on top).

~Bobbycat

I'll be humble, damn I'm amazing.

My humor is creative and offensive like handicap porn.

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